Defence Forces Pensions Update

Posted On April 13, 2021 at 6:25 pm by / 8 Comments

I refer to our recent meeting with the Veterans Associations, on 7 April 2021, and the queries raised regarding the indexation of Defence Forces pensions in payment.

On the question of the ongoing application of public service pension increase policy under the Public Service Stability Agreement (PSSA) 2018-2020 and its proposed successor ‘Building Momentum – a New Public Service Agreement, 2021-2022’, I would invite your attention to the following reply from the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform to Dáil Question No. 221 on 15th December 2020.  That Question asked if retired public servants will receive a pension increase under the new national wage agreement, and in reply the Minister stated that:

“In 2017 the Government agreed the policy on public service pensions in payment for the period to end-2020 as follows:

  • An equitable approach must be adopted for the various public service pensioner cohorts who are not only differentiated by amount of pension in payment (determined by grade and service) as heretofore but also by date of retirement (in particular pre and post end February 2012).
  • Accordingly for those who retired or will retire post end-February 2012, to the extent that they retired on reduced salaries, they will receive pension increases in line with the pay increases due to their peers in employment.
  • When alignment is achieved between pre and post end-February 2012 pensioners, pay increases will continue to benefit pensions in payment.

The above approach was intended to deal with the ongoing complexities which arise as FEMPI pay related provisions are unwound. Given that this process of unwinding of FEMPI pay reductions will be ongoing over 2021 to 2022 as per sections 19 and 20 of the Public Service Pay and Pensions Act 2017, the requirement for equitable treatment, as outlined above, will continue to arise over this period. Accordingly, the above arrangements will remain in place to end 2022 in advance of which I will consider the future policy approach on this issue.”

That is essentially the position as we know it.  Of course, in the context of ratification of the new pay agreement by all concerned, we expect that, as with the PSSA 2018-20 agreement, DPER will then issue updated detailed instructions and guidance to public service bodies on the ongoing implementation of public service pension increase policy out to end-2022, by way of follow-up to their Circulars 2/2018 and 19/2019.  We have already been in contact with our colleagues in DPER in that regard.

In the meantime, as advised at our meeting, this Department is continuing the work of implementing public service pension increase policy, out to end-2020, in line with Section 6.2 of the PSSA 2018-20 and the arrangements set out in those DPER Circulars.  You will be aware from our meeting with the Minister (by VC) on 13th November 2020 that the Department has made very substantial progress on this front regarding military pensions in payment.  In general, I can confirm that, in line with public service pension increase policy, the benefit of the PSSA basic pay increases up to and including 1st October 2020 is now reflected in the military pensions of the vast majority of relevant qualifying pre and post-1 March 2012 retirees and their dependants.

To date, this has been a significant administrative undertaking for the Department and our payroll provider (NSSO).  As previously indicated in discussions between Department officials and the Veterans Associations, each pensioner rate has to be examined at individual level as the various increases are worked through from the different operative dates and by reference to the person’s date of retirement, pensionable salary on retirement etc.  There are also particular challenges arising from the current public health situation that have to be factored in, however I can confirm that the work is progressing.

Pensions Administration

Department of Defence

8 thoughts on “Defence Forces Pensions Update

  1. A lot to Go through,but as any soldier will say give it to me in laymen terms,what exactly does it mean for anyone that retired before 2012 and after 2012th thank you.

    1. In simple terms
      1. Those who retired post-2012 retired on a lower rate of pay and as such received a lower rate of pension.
      2. The Government position is that this cohort will receive increases in pension in line with increases in pay.
      3. When pre and post-2012 align in pensions, the pre-2012 pensioners will receive subsequent increases in line with Defence Forces Pay increases.
      4. Due to the many individual dates of retirement, it has been a major administrative job of work to ensure everyone gets increases due.
      5. Basic pay increases up to and including 1st October 2020 are now reflected in the military pensions of the vast majority of relevant qualifying pre and post-1 March 2012 retirees and their dependants.
      6. On ratification of the new Public Service wage agreement (Building Momentum -2021/2022) pensions will benefit from pay increases under the agreement.

      1. Hi Ollie,
        All this pre and post 2012 is fine I understand that, but in line soldiers terms when approximately can we expect to receive an increase in our pension.

        1. Hi Tommy,
          Subject to ratification of the proposed pay deal by the representative associations, the pay increases set down in the agreement are as follows:
          The following pay adjustments will apply over the period of this Agreement:
           A general round increase in annualised basic salary for all public servants of 1% or €500,
          whichever is greater, on 1 October 2021.
           The equivalent of a 1% increase in annualised basic salaries to be used as a Sectoral Bargaining
          Fund, in accordance with Chapter 2 of this Agreement, on 1 February 2022.
           A general round increase in annualised basic salary for all public servants of 1% or €500,
          whichever is greater, on 1 October 2022.

  2. I as president of the Irish Defence Forces Veterans Association would like to point out that not all veterans associations were invited or consulted around veterans pensions, we are the biggest association who’s members only consist of Irish defence forces members , idfva, are the Irish representative association of the WVF here in ireland.
    were not consulted, on veterans pensions or any other matter that relates to Defence Forces veterans affairs , we are open to discuss this and any other matter relating to our members and veterans in general.
    We would ask that we be notified and included in any further discussions surrounding Irish Defence Forces Veterans

    1. George, can you be more specific as to how a pre-1981 pension differs from post – 1981. I have contacted Pension Section in the Department of Defence and they are unaware of 1981 being of any specific significance in a pensions context.

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